you know, europe, that place that started that whole transatlantic slave trade thing? and colonization of Africa thing? and used both those things to fuel their colonial conquest of…
the thing is that a lot of people considered white in America
Are. not. white. in. Europe. And historically have not been white.
Racism is multifaceted and to say that it’s all based on being against blackness or has all been built on being against blackness is entirely false.
That post was about how whiteness and how it is perceived is fluid and defined by whoever is in power at the time.
again, that’s NOT what “antiblackness is the fulcrum of white supremacy” means
white supremacy has always existed hand in hand with white ethnic diversity and conflict
none of that changes that white folks made the works so that WHITE PEOPLE AND WHITE PEOPLE ALONE have ultimate power
who are those white minority ethnics oppressed by in their home countries? OTHER WHITE PEOPLE.
and all that inter-ethnic conflict in Europe didn’t keep any of those “not white in Europe” folds from coming to THE UNITED STATES and ACTIVELY engaging in antiblackness as a means of securing their position in their new country
from polish folks to italians to czechs to irish
starting race riots, pushing blacks out of unions, etc etc
so shut up with your trying to save white folks from their bullshit bullshit
why do you have to keep repeating yourself over BASIC historical facts?? smh …its clear people don’t want to accept the obvious.
Actually, the historical fulcrum of white supremacy come part and parcel with desiring Asia. Now, I’m not saying anti-blackness isn’t valid, I am also not agreeing that White Ethnic conflict is a part of racial formation. What I am saying is that if we’re talking about history, the enslavement of the African continent and the beginnings of chattel slavery are direct effects of desiring the “exotic Asia.” This motivation developed as the Turks closed the Silk Road cutting the West from the East resulting in a lost fantasy of uniting the Asian world with the Western world that persists today.
Upon examination, it is this fantasy that drives Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. It is from both this desiribility of Asianess and the resentment that is caused by the Turks severing ties from the West that puts the Asian body in Limbo even today. It is this limbo, this ambivalent inclusion that creates a justification, a center point for White Supremacy’s system of valuation. Without it there is no way to resolve the growing prison industrial complex with the liberal values of inclusion and diversity.
hmmm you are talking about the same Europe that was starting to accept the definition of blackness as captive before the end of the silk road? or the same Europe that developed a phobia of blackness because of the Moors? or the same Europe that learned antiblackness from the Arabs who were enslaving Africans and establishing their cultural center around antiblackness? which Europe are you talking about? Because your little vignette about the Turks and the Silk Road is meaningless ahistorical bull talmbout desire for Asia …what!? The desire for Africa that can be started with the Greeks the first classical known group of semi-Europeans? the hell you talking about? stop, i actually don’t want or need to know the thought process that helped you arrive to this dumb ass conclusion smh
As Frank was talking about, one only needs to begin with Arabic poetry from around 600 AD to see the very overt (but these days occult) presence of antiblackness in direct relation to the establishment of filiality (which is filiality that informs how we think of filial relations to this day). (North and East) African Slaves were used, not merely as commodities, and not primarily for economic gain, but for the establishment/marking and maintenance of familial status (as in, defining the family as such in a sort of performative, “look what I have, therefore we must be a family” capacity). The process of leveling at the scrotum, which included (but was not limited to) mutilating the genitalia of blacks by shaving the flesh of the groin down to the pelvic girdle, was often followed by a ritualistic marching to the sea, which had the brutalized Africans walk, with Arab masters in tow, to the shoreline; those that survived were the chosen few that were able to “live” (ha) in enslavement as (meta)physical trophies for Arab families, on display as the enshrinement and legitimation of family as such.
This is particularly important because, though there is a history of civilization that precedes even the Asian dynastic eras (which were presented as ahistorically as they were in relation to what we’re talking about when we talk about niggas) that goes back before even Ancient Sumeria—relics in Jericho go back to about 8000 BCE, as originally thought, and some have been found dating back to around 15000 BCE in the region (this is re: the tower of Jericho, and debates about the civilization it appears to mark)—the cataclysmic shift that marks the metaphysical development of The World (as civilization, with symbolic and juridical order and such) is the enslavement of Africans, as it maps the complicated geography and composes the complex geometry of what it is to be Human once modernity takes root.
It is no coincidence that the Arab poetry reveals this nexus of family/filiality, gratuitous antiblack brutality, and societal development and edification (which Ancient Greece -also- did in its own ways), and that Europe decided, in the Middle Ages, and perfected (by the 1400s on the Iberian peninsula) what “historians” (funny title, considering all the holes and lapses in time they seem to have) refer to as the Slave Trade can be traced this far back (and likely farther, but one of the constitutive elements of the violence this has instantiated is that slave ledgers and cargo counts and captain’s journals and obscure Arab poetry and so on do not a whole account of time and space make), persist echoically in the symbolic order of The World to this day. Same conceptualizations of family structure, same metaphysical logics (this black is a thing, or less than a thing, a sentient and inscrutable object, and all things not like the black, not black, nonblack, are human (to varying degrees)—this is also why the black is not (just…or really) a subaltern in that the noisy silence of the black precedes and allows the subaltern to even wonder if it can speak in the first place), same basic legal structures, same names revolving around a global and singular fear of the locus black/evil/dark(ness).
This is also not to mention the presence of African slaves (due to the Arab slave trade, in part) in Asia (because, as it is known, the nigger is the nigger everywhere (Fanon); or, though there are those that function as the blacks of some particular place, there are those who are black everywhere they go (Gordon III)), and the ability (to this day, emergent from back then as much as it is a novel development) of all nonblack junior partners to simply not be black in/to The World (thus affirming their even partial humanity, a partiality that is a privilege to the black/slave) and to deploy and affirm that nonblackness in and through a fetishistic and phobic relation to blackness globally, but then I mentioned it…so…
Point being: the fulcrum of white supremacy in Europe, as it is everywhere on the globe, and, thanks to the cataclysmic “tear in the world” (Brand) slavery instantiated—and don’t come at me if you’ve read her work with “she’s talking about the transatlantic iteration” because I know that and the point still stands (the world was torn, and the wound/womb produced the world that The World lives in and has since lived in), not that you’ve read her work or heard of her (another issue altogether if true)—time and space was shattered in both directions, to the point that the before, at least for blacks, is not only untraceable (Brand calls this “the end of traceable beginnings”) but also, on the one hand, the subject of a nagging and insatiable desire impossible to ever even grasp (let alone deal with), on the other, the the target of and void filled by the always excessive pain of/and hatred attached to the loss (event(s) unremarkable by anyone but us and some overzealous nonblack and white scholars too eager to ventriloquize, or feel guilty, or draw our love, or all for the above and more) of that past and the past itself for its lostness, and, on the third (I have three hands), an empty and survivalist sense of apathy and repression. What we can know about it, what artifacts there are, are to varying and immeasurable degrees fictional and immaterial and abstract to the point that even what we do ceases, in a lot of ways, to, matter at all—“except we know it happened” (Spillers), and the nexus of this ceasing to matter (this dark matter behind the matter) and the longing/hatred (the matter) is so unimaginably painful the symbolic order that did this shit has no name for it, and we are at (yet another order of) loss.
Antiblackness makes The World go round, and it ruined it all in both directions, backward and forward—for blacks anyway; everyone else seems to be so concerned and stuck with this “before there were niggers” fantasy to which we, yet again, could only aspire.
Come correct or don’t come at all.